Take Action: Ask Governor Brown to Sign Bill To Protect School Children from Vaccine Preventable Diseases
Jun 29, 2015

californialegislatureToday California lawmakers passed SB 277, a bill that will eliminate exemptions (other than for medical reasons) from mandated vaccinations for school children.  California will be the largest state to join ranks with West Virginia and Mississippi, who have declined non-medical exemptions from school vaccine mandates for many years.

The New York Times posted a map depicting the seriousness of the issue in California, where in some areas up to 20 percent of kindergartners are opted out of vaccines.  Details on the efforts of Californian’s in support of this bill are detailed in a recent SOP blog post.

Every Child By Two encourages readers to fax Governor Jerry Brown to urge his signature on the bill.  If you are not from California, please let the Governor know that you support his efforts and hope that your home state will follow California’s lead. Past bills of this nature have been watered down by the Governor, therefore it is important that he understand that the public is behind California in their efforts to protect school children.

The following letter was sent by ECBT last week in anticipation of the vote.

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June 26, 2015

Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

Fax: (916) 558-3160

Dear Governor Brown,

I write to you today on behalf of our organization which was founded nearly twenty-five years ago by Former First Lady Rosalynn Carter and Former First Lady of Arkansas Betty Bumpers to ensure the timely immunization of all children.  In the 1980’s these two ladies were instrumental in helping to pass the laws that exist in every state requiring school children to be fully vaccinated.  In 1991, after an outbreak of measles that took the lives of too many children, they founded Every Child By Two.

As you can imagine, we were very distressed to witness the most recent measles outbreak that began in California and rapidly spread to 131 people here in the U.S. and more in neighboring countries as exposed park goers returned to their homes, carrying the virus with them.  As of the end of May 2015 approximately 178 total cases of measles have been reported in seventeen U.S. states.  This latest measles outbreak provides yet another reminder of the importance of timely vaccinations as most of the individuals infected with measles were intentionally unvaccinated. Sadly, some of those who became infected were children under a year old and therefore too young to be vaccinated against measles. As you are aware, measles is considered the “canary in the coal mine” as it is highly contagious.  However we have far too many parents who come to ECBT after losing their children to diseases such as whooping cough, influenza and other deadly, but preventable diseases.

We are elated that the California legislature will pass SB277 into law, knowing that it will protect the lives of the school children of your state. As you know, for diseases such as measles, a 95% vaccination rate is required to protect the community. When in some areas up to 25% of parents are exempting their children from vaccines due to unfounded fears about safety, it leaves all school children vulnerable to dangerous diseases.

I can assure you that the majority of our 82,000 Vaccinate Your Baby Facebook followers are highly supportive of California’s efforts.   In fact, our messaging regarding these efforts has received more views and shares than any other posts in recent years.   We are encouraged that you will do the right thing by signing this critical bill.

Most Sincerely,

Amy Pisani, Executive Director

Every Child By Two

Cc: Dr. Richard Pan, CA State Senator

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71 responses to “Take Action: Ask Governor Brown to Sign Bill To Protect School Children from Vaccine Preventable Diseases”

  1. Sheila Palevsky MD MPH FAAP says:

    Immunizations are the best way to protect children and their contacts from diseases that can kill or disable

    Only valid medical exemptions should be permitted as an exemption

    Please protect all of our children

  2. Lawrence says:


    Governor Brown has signed SB277!!!!


  3. Kelly says:

    Sure glad the Governor amended the Bill before signing it.

    “The Legislature, after considerable debate, specifically amended SB277, to exempt a child from immunization whenever the child’s physician concludes that there are “circumstances, including but not limited to, family medical history, for which the physician does not recommend immunization….”

  4. Kelly says:

    Almost forgot this part of it…

    “Thus, SB277, while requiring that school children be vaccinated, explicitly provides an exception when a physician believes that circumstances – in the judgement and sound discretion of the physician – so warrant.”

  5. Lawrence says:

    The Governor didn’t “amend it” the Legislature did…..and I’m sure the likes of Dr. Bob and Dr. Gordon will take advantage of that to stuff their pockets full of their “dupes,” I mean, patients money….

  6. jgc56 says:

    kelly, here’s the relevant text of from section 120370 (a) of SB 277

    “If the parent or guardian files with the governing authority a written statement by a licensed physician to the effect that the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances, including, but not limited to, family medical history, for which the physician does not recommend immunization, that child shall be exempt from the requirements of Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415 to the extent indicated by the physician’s statement.”

    So let’s fix that post for you:

    “The Legislature [authored] SB277 to exempt a child from immunization whenever the child’s physician concludes that there [exists a valid medical conditon or circumstance rendering them in appropriate candidate for vaccination].”

  7. Kelly says:

    hi lawrence: The governor wouldn’t sign unless it was amended. He either wanted this amendment or wanted to add back in the religious exemption. So in that sense it really was the governor’s doing.

  8. Kelly says:

    hi jg: Not sure what your issue is? I copied and pasted my post directly from the exact Form the governor signed, and my post says exactly what yours does. what seems to be the issue?

  9. Lawrence says:

    @Kelly – that is a nonsensical answer. The bill was amended by the Legislature and then the resulting bill was signed by the Governor.

    Echoing JGC, I’m not sure what your issue is.

  10. Kelly says:

    Yes and the legislature amended it because it would not have been signed if they didn’t. Not sure what you are arguing about? The fact is, the governor would not have signed it without the amendment. I give that credit to the governor.If that bothers you, so be it.
    The statement I posted above is right from the signed doc, which you posted lawrence.

  11. Lawrence says:

    Again, what’s your point?

  12. Kelly says:

    What was yours? To argue about the governor?
    My point is that there are options, besides the medical exemption (that is impossible to get), for people not wanting to vaccinate in California and still be able to go to school.

  13. Lawrence says:

    No, actually medical exemptions are all that is left.

  14. Kelly says:

    Wrong, the Doc has much more flexibility and dicretion to “not” recommend vaccination. If you look at the official “medical exemption” guidelines there isn’t much there, now there are many more options to recommend “not” vaccinating. This is California’s version of medical exemption.

  15. Lawrence says:

    And it’s better than allowing PBEs & I hope that the authorities crack down on “doctors” who write bogus exemptions….because I’m sure there will be a few of them.

  16. Kelly says:

    Agreed, but at least Docs can look at make-sense options like family history, genetics, previous reactions, etc., etc. and this may save somebody from injury.

  17. Lawrence says:

    But wait, I thought anti-vaxers didn’t believe in genetics….

  18. Kelly says:

    Not sure what you mean? Vaccines are not one size fit all. Genetics can determine how susceptible one is to injury. Why wouldn’t an anti-vaxer believe in genetics?

  19. Lawrence says:

    Because they don’t believe that autism is genetic in nature….but at the end of the day, a child in California has 5 – 6 years to get up to date on vaccines, that’s a huge window of opportunity.

    And there is no evidence, that outside of known contraindications for vaccination, that children should not be vaccinated on schedule.

  20. Chris says:

    Kelly: ” Genetics can determine how susceptible one is to injury.”

    And what genetics are those? Be specific and make sure to give the PMIDs to the papers that discuss what genetic sequences cause someone to become injured to a specific gene.

  21. Kelly says:

    We do believe in genetics and the people I know believe genetics does play a part in autism, although not the entire part. There are other factors.

    hi chris: why don’t you research it and come back and report?
    I really don’t care that you don’t believe that your genetics is a blueprint for your life and health. It would just make too much sense wouldn’t it.
    What do you think family history is? Looking at genetics. I guess you have never heard of it.

  22. Chris says:

    “hi chris: why don’t you research it and come back and report?”

    You made the claim, therefore you need to come up with the supported evidence of that claim. Especially since you probably don’t live in California and are just another sock puppet.

  23. Chris says:

    Hmmm… no rejoinder? Did you go to bed? It is only 10:30 pm on the West Coast (for those not acquainted with geography, that includes California). Well it is probably good that “Kelly” does not stay up past midnight.

  24. Kelly says:

    chris, i never said i lived in california. you are a live one aren’t you? i live in the mountain time zone. do you live in california chris?
    Genetics are the way of the future, they will be closely looking at a persons genetics before doing medical procedures etc. It’s a good thing chris, it doesn’t matter if you believe it or not, it will happen, it is happening now.

  25. Chris says:

    So just produce the PMIDs that identify the genetic sequences that show a person is more susceptible to the vaccine than disease.

    I live on the west coast, one were measles was imported from Disneyland.

  26. Kelly says:

    your question is ridiculous. more susceptibility to vaccine than disease? the point is, if one has a higher chance of getting injured from the vaccine, you don’t get vaccinated.
    your attitude is really bad and i won’t being replying to anything more from you. i don’t want toxins in my body and i sure as heck don’t want toxic people in my life or online.

  27. Lawrence says:

    Then you really wouldn’t want the diseases to infect you or your children….and vaccines aren’t “toxic.”

  28. Kelly says:

    agree, and why would you purposely inject yourself with a vaccine if you thought you were more susceptible to injury from it?
    you wouldn’t.

  29. Chris says:

    So you agree that it is better to get vaccinated. Plus you really need some very good evidence that you would be injured by a vaccine, which is something you would discuss with your doctor. So SB 277 is a very good thing, in that it will protect those who have legitimate medical reasons to not vaccinate, like those who are immune compromised.

  30. Chris says:

    A woman in my state has just died from measles. She was immune compromised and depended on community immunity, but that failed due the low vaccine rates in her area.

  31. jgc56 says:

    Kelly, my point is that the bill allows only medical exemptions: the phrase you took out of context (“circumstances, including but not limited to, family medical history, for which the physician does not recommend immunization”) simply describes the evidence a physician will be required to document in support of qualifying for a medical exemption. The bill wasn’t amended prior to signing in any way which opens the door to recognizing non-medical exemptions.

    That a bit clearer?

    “Agreed, but at least Docs can look at make-sense options like family history, genetics, previous reactions, etc., etc. and this may save somebody from injury.”

    What in the bill would have prevented phsyicians from doing so in the absence of this section, kelly? Family hisotry, genetics, previous reactions, etc. are all factors that have always informed decisions regarding qualifying for a medical exemption.

    “Vaccines are not one size fits all”

    The ‘sizes’ vaccine doesn’t fit, however–conditions that indicate the patient should be medically exempt–are both well-characterized and occur in small numbers of individuals. This bill does nothing to expand the cohort eligible for medical exemption.

  32. John says:

    Chris –
    The woman in your state who died was vaccinated and she was also immune compromised. Ultimately, it was the vaccine failure and all of the medications that she was on that killed her. It’s very reckless to blame low vaccine rates as the cause of her death.

  33. Lawrence says:

    @John – no, it wasn’t a “vaccine-failure” since the immuno-suppressive drugs she was on would have meant even if she was immune via measles infection (in the past), she could have been infected again…..if vaccine rates were higher, the chances of her coming in contact with an infected person would have been much, much lower & she might be alive today.

    So yes, I can blame anti-vaxers for her death, at least indirectly, and maybe directly, depending on exactly how she was exposed and by whom.

  34. jgc56 says:

    If the person who served as the vector of infection had been vaccinated against measles you might have the beginnings of an argument that ‘vaccine failure killed her’.

    As the person she acquired the measles infection from was instead unvaccinated against measles, however…

  35. Chris says:

    John, good job of blaming the victim. She had a medical condition that obliterated her immunity to everything, including anything that she had been vaccinated against.

    The cause of her measles were the folks who did not vaccinate, got measles and spread it around. If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. John, you and your friends are part of the problem when you spread misinformation around.

  36. John says:

    Nobody is blaming the victim.
    She was vaccinated and it didn’t protect her. That is vaccine failure. Make up excuses as to why the vaccine didn’t protect her, but the fact is, the vaccine did not work.
    There is not enough information available in regards to how she was exposed to blame anybody, period, end of story.

    “If the person who served as the vector of infection had been vaccinated against measles you might have the beginnings of an argument that ‘vaccine failure killed her”
    This scenario is entirely possible, so quit blaming the unvaccinated for her death.

  37. Marsha Bates says:

    Kelly, you may be interested in this:
    This law won’t apply to the majority of people currently involved in this fight – yet. Most will continue in school as is for many years (unless you leave now in protest). 2. The law allows for some families to continue to opt out of vaccines – forever.
    Realize that this bill won’t go into effect until the 2016/2017 school year. So there’s nothing you need to do this year except submit a Personal Belief Exemption form. That’s it. Oh, and try to get every Legislator who voted yes to lose his or her next election. And join every protest and meeting you can to make your voices heard.
    Just wanted to get that out so you can calm down and think through the rest of this page. Yes, it all totally sucks, but it doesn’t suck quite as bad as it could have. Here’s what you need to know:
    Parents who prefer to skip vaccines in whole or in part have several options to consider:
    Continue in school without vaccines under the “grandfather” clause which allows children who are already enrolled to remain in school (see below). If this applies to you, you don’t need to do anything except you must submit a Personal Belief Exemption form before the end of 2015 if you haven’t in previous years. At this time, about 90% of current schoolchildren are grandfathered in for next year and won’t be subject to this bill yet.
    Continue in school as a “conditional entry,” which means to obtain a written plan from the doctor that outlines when any missing vaccines will be completed, and gradually begin vaccines (see below for more details). You won’t need to do this until next year.
    Continue in school utilizing special education services since California is allowing children with special needs who qualify for an IEP to remain in school without vaccines (see below).
    Go ahead and complete the required number of vaccines prior to entering daycare or school (see catch-up schedules below).
    Homeschool the child.
    Get a medical exemption starting NEXT year.
    Understand your options
    There are many children who will not be subject to the law and various circumstances (besides medical exemption) in which unvaccinated children will be allowed to continue in school.
    First, understand the “grandfather” clause which allows unvaccinated children to remain in school until they reach a checkpoint year. These checkpoints typically occur when a child first enrolls in a new school (no matter what age), when a child reaches kindergarten, and when a child reaches 7th grade. For example: a child in second grade who doesn’t have all the required vaccines at the time such a law goes into effect can continue to go to school through 6th grade without further vaccines. Upon enrollment into 7th grade, a child would need to either be caught up on all missing vaccines or at least begin to catch up on missing vaccines (called a conditional entry, see below). Another example: a teen enrolled in 7th grade or above will also not be subject to this bill as long as you don’t change school districts. Preschoolers can continue without vaccines (if enrolled with a PBE this coming school year) until Kinder. If enrolled in a TK this coming year, and you stay in the same school after that, you are grandfathered.
    Second, it is useful to note that states which mandate vaccines for daycare or school attendance can’t actually mandate vaccination during infancy. The mandates are only enforced when a child is enrolled into a daycare or school. Families who prefer not to vaccinate during infancy do not need to do so; vaccines can be deferred until a later date as detailed in the section to follow (Vaccine Schedules to Meet Daycare and School Requirements).
    Third, realize that the list of vaccines required for school is actually shorter than the number of vaccines on the CDC schedule. For example, in California only six out of the twelve vaccines are required: DTaP, Polio, Hib, Hep B, MMR, and Chickenpox. The other six vaccines are optional.
    Fourth, some states (like California) allow what is called a “conditional” entry into school. This means that a child who hasn’t met the vaccine requirements can still be enrolled as long as a plan to eventually complete vaccination is in place. Such cases would typically need a written letter from the child’s doctor that outlines the plan. Children may be able to spread the required vaccines out over a few years and proceed gradually if the school is flexible. See the last section at the very end for more information. This option would apply to those who don’t qualify for a medical exemption and have no other option.
    Fifth, a concession made by the lawmakers in California is that children who qualify for an Individualized Education Plan (IEP) will not be subject to the mandatory vaccination law. This means that most children with special needs (mainly for intellectual impairments or learning disorders) will be allowed in school regardless of vaccine status. Certain laws were already in place which protect the rights of such kids to have equal access to education. This may not be the case in all states.

  38. Marsha Bates says:

    Medical exemptions to vaccination
    The guidelines for providing medical exemptions are extremely broad in the new California law. Parents, physicians, legal experts, and some legislators fought to have the term “contraindication” removed from the guidelines, and succeeded. This means that is it up to the personal judgement of each physician and patient to work together to determine if a child qualifies for a medical exemption. The California bill declares that an exemption can be granted if “the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances including, but not limited to, family history, for which the physician does not recommend immunization . . .”
    I recommend AGAINST seeking medical exemptions at this time because most people won’t need one. The grandfathering clause and having an IEP are guarantees. A medical exemption can be challenged. You are much better off sticking to the law and following it’s guidelines. I don’t see any benefit in trying to secure a medical exemption right now years before you may need one. They are not going to take that right away. If they do, then all medical exemptions would be null and void regardless of when you got them. Getting one now wouldn’t help you. I urge people to not overload the system with medical exemptions now. Wait until your grandfathering time has run out. Let those who really need one get one for the next school year.
    Here are some of the circumstances which might prompt a doctor to grant a legitimate exemption for a child or family:
    A child with a severe vaccine reaction already.
    Siblings of a child who had a severe reaction.
    Children of a parent who had a severe reaction.
    More distant relatives with a severe reaction. Reactions that occur in grandparents, aunts and uncles, or cousins are less of a concern as the genetic risks are not as closely shared. However, parents can and should discuss this with their physician.
    Current severe medical conditions or chronic conditions. Children with any chronic medical condition or temporary moderate to severe condition can discuss with a doctor whether or not that condition warrants temporary or permanent exemption.
    Family history of severe medical conditions. There is a growing body of research which is finding a small link between vaccination and increased risk of autoimmune disease. Families with lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, celiac disease, fibromyalgia, multiple sclerosis, type I diabetes, and other autoimmune conditions can discuss exemptions. Families with neurodevelopmental or psychiatric conditions can also discuss this with their doctor. The greater the number of familial diseases, and the closer in the family they occur to the child in question, the more likely is the need to consider exemption.
    Autism in the family. Despite the lack of published mainstream evidence of a connection between vaccines and autism, many families will consider seeking exemptions for a child with autism and the rest of their children. Autism in more distant relatives would be less of a concern for a baby but can be considered.
    Other learning and behavioral disorders in the family. Disorders that are less severe than autism, such as ADHD, ODD, and others, are less of a concern but warrant consideration by families and their doctors.
    Allergies in the family. This is perhaps one of the most common disorders for which families may try to get a medical exemption. If a family’s challenges are significant, such as multiple close family members with asthma, eczema, and life-threatening food allergies, consideration for exemption could be valid. Yet, some may go a little overboard, such as having a second cousin with asthma, or having a child who is “sensitive” to sugar.
    Genetic abnormalities in a family. There is a growing trend to perform genetic testing on families to evaluate current medical problems and to predict future health risks. Some have theorized that genetic defects that impair detoxification and antioxidant function in the body may increase the risk of severe vaccine reactions. It is important to know that no research has yet been done to determine if this is true. One particular gene variation which exists in most families with autism is called the MTHFR gene, and many such families believe this gene defect warrants medical exemption from vaccines. Until research supports this theory, this couldn’t be used as a definite reason for exemption. Doctors certainly have the right to consider anything they want to. But I can’t find any medical justification for this yet.
    It is not my intention to claim that the above scenarios all deserve a medical exemption from vaccines. I simply list the most common reasons that patients have discussed with me and opinions that various colleagues have shared with me. This issue has not yet been sorted out by research.
    In California, no specific form exists at this time; the exemption is simply a letter from the doctor. Parents will submit it to the school, and the school administrator will determine whether or not the letter meets the legal guidelines of the state. Since very few school administrators have the medical expertise to understand or contradict a medical doctor’s opinion on this, it is likely that most such letters will be accepted. If the letter is not accepted, parents may attempt to enroll the child into another school where the school staff are more understanding. For example, standard public schools will likely be more strict than charter public schools or small private schools.

  39. Marsha Bates says:

    Bottom line, it is imperative that all families and doctors operate within the guidelines of the law and the standard of medical care. I would say that at this time there is no certain medical standard of care on this issue. That will evolve over time. We can all work together on this. There’s no reason whatsoever to go outside of the law, no matter how angry you are.
    Home-based education was already becoming more popular before mandatory vaccination laws were introduced. Some families embrace this lifestyle, and many children and families thrive outside of standard educational systems. These new laws will prompt more families to make this choice.
    Homeschoolers don’t necessarily need to be isolated and educated alone one-on-one with a parent as a full-time teacher. Co-op programs, in which families group their children together for educational, social, athletic, and cultural experiences will become more popular. Parents won’t be the only ones responsible for teaching; they can share duties with other parents, tutors, even private teachers, and such costs can be shared among many families. Parents should be able to work part-time outside the home if desire or needed.

  40. Chris says:

    “She was vaccinated and it didn’t protect her. That is vaccine failure.”

    Dear John the murderer: Even if she had had measles before her immune disorder would have made her vulnerable to another infection. You are blaming the victim because she had a medical condition that was not her fault. You are stomping on her grave, and Wakefield and his supporters (like you) are as responsible for her death just like someone who takes a firearm and shoots into the crowd.

    Wakefield lied, and with help from John and friends: people have died in the UK, USA, Japan, France, and elsewhere. You and the other anti-vaxers will also be guilty for the death of the little boy in California with SSPE. Just as you are all guilty for the diphtheria death of the little boy in Spain.

  41. Marsha Bates says:

    No one wants to homeschool against their wishes. But some may need to. You will meet many like-minded parents in your area who will be looking for the same thing you are.
    Vaccine schedules to meet daycare and school requirements
    Remember, parents who suddenly find themselves needing to register an unvaccinated or under-vaccinated child for daycare or preschool NEXT YEAR can begin school with a “conditional entry” as described above, and expanded on at the end of this piece. Kids don’t need to wait until all doses are complete before they enter school.
    Vaccinating to meet daycare or preschool requirements (in a previously-unvaccinated child):
    4 DTaP
    3 Polios
    3 Hep B
    1 Hib*
    1 MMR
    1 Cpox
    *Note: only 1 HIB is needed for infants 15 months and older.
    Also note: a 5th dose of DTaP and a 4th dose of Polio aren’t needed as long as the last doses of each are given at 4 years of age and older.
    This process would take about one year to complete. This schedule could be started at any age in preparation for daycare or preschool. The spacing between any of these doses can be prolonged without compromising effectiveness. If a child already had some vaccines during infancy, but then the process was halted, parents would cross each previously-administered vaccine off of the above list and simply begin the schedule with whatever is remaining.
    Vaccinating to meet kindergarten requirements (in a previously-unvaccinated child):
    4 DTaP
    3 Polio
    3 Hep B
    1 HIB*
    1 MMR
    1 Cpox
    *Note: HIB is only approved by the FDA to be given prior to a child’s 5th birthday. If a child turns five before this school requirement is enforced, he or she won’t need this vaccine.
    **Note: For kindergarten, two doses of MMR and Chickenpox are normally required. However, for most children, one dose works well enough. Families who are trying to minimize the number of vaccines can get a blood test a few months after the first doses to see if they worked. If so, second doses wouldn’t be needed. If the blood test shows the first dose failed, the second dose can be given at anytime thereafter.
    Vaccinating to meet requirements for kids seven through eleven years (in a previously-unvaccinated child):
    1 Tdap*
    3 Hep B
    3 Polio
    1 MMR
    1 Cpox
    Note: Kids 7 years and older can’t get DTaP, and they can’t get a series of Tdap. Tdap is only approved as a single dose.
    Vaccinating to meet requirements for teenagers and older (in a previously-unvaccinated child):
    1 Tdap
    3 Polio
    1 MMR
    1 Cpox
    Notice that this is the smallest of all schedules. This is because some states, including California, do not require the Hep B vaccine for teens. Don’t forget, a child will need a blood test to prove the MMR and Chickenpox vaccines worked, or get a second dose.
    What can you do if you cant get any exemption but still don’t want to vaccinate and can’t home school and can’t move?
    Ultimately, some families will be SOL and will need to either move or work the system within the confines of the law. Here are some thoughts:
    Homeschool during preschool and kindergarten since full vaccination isn’t a consideration for you.
    Explore the schools in the area to learn which are more friendly toward families who submit medical exemptions, as these schools are likely to also be more lenient with conditional entry plans (such as public charter schools or small private or religious schools).
    Enroll the child into school around seven years of age with a conditional entry plan from the doctor which outlines a vaccine plan which will begin at some point in the near future.
    When the school insists that the child begin following the conditional entry plan, do the first vaccine on the seven-year-old schedule above, which would be Tdap.
    If the child has a moderate to severe reaction, discuss medical exemption from further vaccines with the doctor.
    If no significant reaction occurs, which is very likely to be the case, wait until the school indicates it is time to continue the written plan and then do the first polio vaccine (just polio, not Hep B; see reasoning below). Continue slowly vaccinating as the school prompts you too. Remember, school officials are busy and may not have the time to keep on top of your child’s plan. It’s your responsibility as a parent to make sure you keep checking the vaccine plan so your child doesn’t fall behind. If this process is drawn out until 7th grade, the child will not be required to get the Hep B series. You will need a blood test a few months after completion to make sure the MMR and Chickenpox vaccines worked.
    At any point along the way, if the child catches chickenpox, be sure to have it documented with an in-person visit to the doctor (who will usually see the child outside the office to avoid spread of the disease). The vaccine will then not be needed. If repeated exposures to chickenpox have occurred, and the child has not caught chickenpox, a blood test to check immunity could be done in lieu of vaccination.
    The child will eventually meet all the vaccination requirements (1 Tdap, 1 MMR, 3 Polios, and possibly 1 Chickenpox) and continue to remain in school.
    I want to make it very clear that it is important to work within the guidelines of all rules and laws regarding vaccines and education. Work closely with school administrators and medical providers to find the best educational lifestyle for everyone involved.

  42. Marsha Bates says:

    If your child is grandfathered in, don’t do anything at this time other than stay in the same school if possible. Be sure to get in a PBE form before 2015 ends. When the grandfathering time runs out (your child reaches kinder, 7th grade, or you have to change schools), make an appointment with a doctor to discuss other options.
    Get your child into a school this year so you can be grandfathered in for at least a few years.
    If your child has an IEP, don’t do anything. Stay in school. Never let that IEP go. Your child can remain unvaccinated.
    If you feel your child may qualify for a medical exemption, and is NOT grandfathered in, and does NOT have an IEP, make an appointment with a doctor to discuss a medical exemption. Please don’t ask for one if your child has another way out at this time (grandfathered, IEP).

  43. John says:

    Marsha, thank you! Great information.

    Chris, I am not responsible for her being immune compromised or her other health conditions, period. Nor can you prove how she became infected.
    Your last statement is completely uncalled for.

  44. Chris says:

    John: “Chris, I am not responsible for her being immune compromised”

    No, you are responsible for spreading Wakefield lies and the reduction of MMR vaccination. You and others who lie about vaccines are still murderers. Deal with it, your lies kill.

  45. Chris says:

    And that also goes for you Ms. Bates, you are also a murderer. You contributing to the decay of community immunity, and every since child who dies from measles, diphtheria, hib, etc is also your fault.

  46. Lawrence says:

    She copy and pasted that from Dr. Bob’s page, didn’t she?

  47. John says:

    Dream on Chris and Lawrence. You guys are responsible for destroying lives, injuring kids and even killing them.

    And, Wakefield was right!!! Vaccines are making people sick and killing them.

  48. Chris says:

    “And, Wakefield was right!!! Vaccines are making people sick and killing them.”

    Prove it. Provide the PubMed indexed studies by reputable qualified researchers that the MMR vaccine which has been used in the USA since 1971 causes more harm than measles, mumps and rubella. We already have evidence that measles kills, from those whose immune systems are compromised (especially those going through chemotherapy or organ transplant) and even healthy kids, like the little boy in California who is now dying from SSPE.

    Until you come up with that evidence, you will be responsible for every vaccine preventable death. As noted by this article of the little boy who died from diphtheria: Parents of diphtheria-stricken boy feel “tricked” by anti-vaccination groups. Are you proud of that accomplishment?

  49. John says:

    Except that vaccines don’t prevent death Chris, as noted by this woman.

  50. John says:

    Lawrence, I don’t believe your link, as my nephew and Uncle were both injured by vaccines. Enough said.

  51. jgc56 says:

    “This “entirely possible” scenario ISN’T what happened here: the woman’s death was the result of an outbreak caused by unvaccinated individuals.

    There were five other measles cases in the Clallam county outbreak which cost this woman her life. The index case was unvaccinated.

    He gave it to an unvaccinated child, who gave it to her unvaccinated sibling.

    Another unvaccinated adult got measles too.

    A partially vaccinated adult (he was vaccinated in the early 1970s before the second innoculaton was recommended) got measles from one of the kids. The partially vaccinated adult voluntarily quarantined himself and did not infect anyone else.

    the index case and three of the four secondary cases were all unvaccinated: her death was a consequence of failure to comply with recommended immunization.

  52. John says:

    You mean this info? It is not known who the index case is. Please cite your source. This is the last I heard:

    “Clallam County over the past few months that the previous case—the fifth—of measles in that county involved a man who had been vaccinated against the disease. The other four measles cases in the county in February involved people who had not been vaccinated.19 These included a 14-year old boy (the fourth case) and his 5-year old sister (the second case),20 and two men ages 43 (the third case) and 52 (the first case).21 Two of the individuals involved in the first four cases are apparently related to the man in the fifth case.19

    According to Clallam health officials, both the fourth and fifth case individuals were quarantined during their infectious period, so they could not have spread the disease.19 20 21 22

    All five cases occurred at the same time there was so much national commotion over the outbreak of measles at Disneyland… which explains why the Clallam County Health and Human Services officials started issuing public health advisories urging people to get free shots of the measles vaccine (MMR) at local clinics.20

    It’s possible that the 20-some year old woman (the sixth case) caught the measles virus from one of the other five people (although we know that at least two of those individuals had been quarantined). “

  53. John says:

    Looks like another example of a vaccinated person who caught the disease.
    Also, wonder how many recently vaccinated individuals could have spread the disease unknowingly because they had no symptoms? Could be a case of the recently vaccinated spreading disease to others.

  54. Chris says:

    John, you really don’t care about people with compromised immune systems. Your total disregard for real evidence and callous attitude towards them is why you are a murderer. It must make you very happy when they die. For most of us, we grieve and try to remember one reason to vaccinate is to protect them:

    By the way, still waiting for those PubMed indexed studies by reputable qualified researchers that the MMR causes more harm than measles, mumps and rubella. Until you provide that the consensus with be that Wakefield’s lie and those who lie for him are causing people to die.

  55. jgc56 says:

    ” You guys are responsible for destroying lives, injuring kids and even killing them.”

    Citations needed, John: what vaccines on the recommended childhood schedule injures or kills more children than the infectious disease they protect against?

  56. jgc56 says:

    John, what injuries did you nephew and uncle suffer, and how have you factually established those injuries were caused by vaccines they received? Be specific.

  57. Chris says:

    “Be specific.”

    And was there enough evidence to get compensation from the NVICP? Especially since it has a very low bar to receive compensation.

  58. John says:

    “you really don’t care about people with compromised immune systems.”
    On the contrary, people with compromised immune systems shouldn’t get vaccinated, but you go ahead and keep pushing them on them.
    Irony: Vaccines compromise immune systems and eventually kill you.

    “what vaccines on the recommended childhood schedule injures or kills more children than the infectious disease they protect against?”
    In the USA, that’s easy, MMR/Measles.

    “what injuries did you nephew and uncle suffer” We are not allowed to discuss details in either case right now. Gee, wonder why that is? There is a 5 year back log, but yes, they both should be receiving compensation, but only time will tell.

    Your precious vaccines injured my family and I am sure you are happy about that.

  59. Chris says:

    “Your precious vaccines injured my family”

    Prove it.

    Provide the PubMed indexed studies by reputable qualified researchers that the MMR causes more injury than measles, mumps or rubella. Until then we will assume you are just like Andy Wakefied, a liar and and a fraud. Plus a killer of the innocent. I am sure the family in California whose child is now dying of SSPE thinks fondly of you folks (by the way that is sarcasm).

  60. novalox says:


    Thank you for proving that you are a sadistic individual who revels in the deaths of individuals from something which could have been utterly been prevented. Your complete lack of empathy is noted and I can show your posts as an example of the lack of humanity that the typical anti-vaxxer has.

    And yes, you are a liar who has blood on his/her/its hands.

  61. jgc56 says:

    “In the USA, that’s easy, MMR/Measles.”

    Id din’t ask you “What vaccines on the recommended childhood schedule injures or kills more children in the USA than the infectious disease they protect against?”, did I? Iasked instead “What vaccines on the recommended childhood schedule injures or kills more children than the infectious disease they protect against?”

    How about answering the question as asked, or, if you’re insistant on focusing on injury and death in the US, indicate which vaccines cause more injuries and deaths each year than the diseases they protect against caused each year prior to the introduction of vaccines against them?

  62. jgc56 says:

    “We are not allowed to discuss details in either case right now.”

    I’m not asking for details, simply that you identify the injuries you beleive they suffered as a consequence of vaccines. May I trust that they are something other than having an autism spectrum or other neurodevelopmental disorder, as these are not known to be causally associated with vaccination?

  63. jgc56 says:

    BTW, John, may I also trust that your belief that their injuries are associated with vaccinations they received is based on something other than a post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy?

  64. PKT says:

    Incredible, reading these comments makes me sick. No respect for people injured by vaccines. What has this world come to? Where is your humanity? Really sad that people in the US act like this. I vaccinate all of my children and I also respect those that make other choices, and I definitely take vaccine injuries seriously and would never mock anybody about it. Complete turnoff, this blog makes me completely ashamed to be pro vaccine.
    Have you ever walked a mile in somebody else’s shoes? Try it some time.

  65. Chris says:

    PKT: “No respect for people injured by vaccines.”

    Work on your reading comprehension. We are very sympathetic to those who have actually been injured by vaccines. A father of one young man who was injured by the OPV worked to change the American vaccine schedule to the IPV.

    What is quite disgusting is that “John” was blaming a woman for her death from measles because she had an immune dysfunction.

    “Have you ever walked a mile in somebody else’s shoes? Try it some time.”

    My adult son has autism, and he was injured by a real disease. If you have any actual evidence that the “injuries from vaccine” are greater than those from actual diseases, then present those PubMed indexed studies by reputable qualified researchers. Until then, take your faux indignation elsewhere.

  66. novalox says:


    Judging by your comments, I can assume that you don’t have any actual respect for those injured by VPD, much less the rare cases where someone is injured by vaccines.

  67. jgc56 says:

    John, it’s the source of infection for the index case that is unknown.

    The index case is known: a 52-year old male with no history of travel outside the country or contact with a known measles case. (See http://www.pnwbha.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Seeing-Spots-Poster-Presentation.pdf, a summary slide from the Pacific NorthWest Border Health Alliance)

  68. jgc56 says:

    PKT, I have respect for people actually injured by vaccines. I also have respect for people who themselves exhibit, or who have children and other family members who exhibit, autism spectrum disorders or other nueordevelopmental disorders.

    But those don’t represent the same group of people.

    I have no respect for people who falsely claim the risks associated with vaccination exceed the risks assoicated with remaining vulnerable to infection, and who actively dessiminate false information regarding the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

    And I have less than no respect for people like John elect to blame the victim rather than the actions of the individuals who, by failing to comply withthe recommended routine vaccination schedule, placed her well-being at risk.

  69. FSM says:

    It seems like there is no escape from the scientifically ignorant, and the same cast of scientifically illiterate liars – even on this site.

  70. FSM says:

    PKT, it would appear that you are misunderstanding the sentiment here. It’s unfortunate that so much time and effort must be wasted combating the flood of false information and misrepresented data presented by the anti-vaxx lobby that it can appear as if we have no sympathy for those legitimately injured by vaccine. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Risk does, and always will exist. It is a matter then of accurately measuring risk vs.benefit and making a decision based on that risk assessment. It is always a horrible tragedy when someone has an adverse event, and has undesirable side effect, is badly injured, or even dies. I hope you can understand how fighting the anti-vax propaganda machine, and those seeking to profit from it, may result in the appearance of the forest is being lost for the trees.

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