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Why Early HPV Vaccination is Beneficial

Since the human papillomavirus (HPV) is transmitted from one person to another through sexual activity, many parents question why the CDC recommends the vaccine be administered to boys and girls as young as 11 or 12 years of age.  HPV vaccination is critical if we are to prevent the 27,000 cases of anal, mouth/throat, penile, cervicalvaginal, or vulvar cancers that are diagnosed each year in the U.S.  However, since some parents have difficulty acknowledging that their teenage children may be engaging in activity that puts them at risk of HPV, they’re often reluctant to vaccinate at the recommended age.

If you’re a parent who is questioning whether your preteen child should get the HPV vaccine, it’s important to realize the benefits of vaccinating at an early age.  

 hpv-cancer-prevention

The vaccine works best prior to exposure to the HPV virus.

The fact is that almost all sexually active people will get HPV at some point in their lives.  While most of these infections go undetected and may even clear up on their own, we know that one in four people in the U.S. are currently infected and that initial infection typically occurs in the teens or early 20s.

While most parents are hopeful that their teenagers will refrain from sexual activity until later in life, research tells us otherwise.  The data suggests that 5% of 12-year-olds, 10% of 13-year-olds and 20% of 14-year-olds are sexually active. And the likelihood of sex continues to escalate with each school grade level with 32% of 9th grade students to 62% of 12th grade students.  And since HPV can be transmitted through oral sex as well, it’s important to note that as many as 51% of 15-24 year-olds are having oral sex before they have their first sexual intercourse.

Since it’s entirely possible to get HPV the very first time that a person has sexual contact with another person, the question we must ask ourselves is why should we wait until a child is sexually active to offer vaccination? As we can see by the data, even a child as young as 12 years old can be at risk.  Even if a child should abstain from sex until marriage, there is no guarantee that their partner did the same, and they can still contract HPV that may one day lead to cancer.  However, if a child should complete the three dose series of HPV vaccination before they begin any type of sexual activity, then they’ll be better protected if they get exposed to the virus, at whatever age that may be.

The HPV vaccine produces a higher immune response in preteens than it does in older teens and young women.

Results from studies of HPV vaccination indicate that over 99% of vaccinated women developed antibodies after vaccination.  But it’s also important to note that antibody titers were higher in the younger populations.  Girls who were 9- 15 years old when vaccinated seem to generate a better immune response to the vaccine as compared to those who were 16-26 years old.  This just reinforces the fact that the vaccine is best when administered at a young age.

A new study shows that early vaccination reduces the risk of cervical dysplasia among young women.

In a recent study published in Pediatrics, researchers from Canada found that girls who received the HPV vaccine at an earlier age were also less likely to suffer with cervical dysplasia and genital warts, both of which are caused by HPV.  This study was conducted on 260,493 girls, half of which were eligible for Ontario’s publicly funded HPV vaccination program.  Vaccination occurred in 8th and 9th grade and then both the vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were tracked through 10th, 11th and 12th grade to see whether they were diagnosed with cervical dysplasia or genital warts.

What researchers discovered was that of the 2,436 cases of cervical dysplasia that were recorded between Grades 10 to 12, 44% fewer cases were found to occur in the girls who had received the vaccine.   This translated into 5.7 fewer cases  of cervical dysplasia and 0.34 fewer cases of genital warts for every 1,000 girls vaccinated.

There is plenty of research that indicates that the benefits of HPV vaccination far outweigh the risks. The United States has already witnessed a reduction in HPV prevalence among those who have been vaccinated and there is a great amount of research on the safety of the vaccine.  So there really is no reason not to vaccinate early to protect our children while we still have the chance.

Listen to what this mother and cervical cancer survivor has to say about the HPV vaccination for her son and daughter.  After her own personal battles with cancer and a hysterectomy she explains why she will be getting her children the HPV vaccine series as soon as they turn 11.

For more information on HPV check out these resources:

Information about the HPV Vaccine

Vaccines for Preteens and Teens

Information for Parents about Preteen and Teen Vaccines

Resources for Health Professionals about Preteen and Teen Vaccines

HPV-Associated Cancers

For clinicians who would like to learn more about how to “Partner for Prevention”:

As the CDC continues to work closely with the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), join the Adolescent Immunization Communications Team on Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 11:00AM ET for a special webinar that will feature the following experts:

  • Rebecca B. Perkins, MD, MSc, FACOG will highlight the importance of this effort from her perspective as an Ob-Gyn, including an overview of why HPV vaccination is a critical cancer prevention tool.
  • Sharon G. Humiston, MD, MPH, FAAP will provide tips for successful recommendations focusing on how clinicians in pediatrics can increase acceptance and uptake of HPV vaccine.
  • Jill Roark, MPH, Health Communication Specialist, CDC/NCIRD will introduce the three key pillars of the HPV Vaccine is Cancer Prevention clinician engagement effort and share information about new tools and resources available through CDC.

To register, please visit: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/1172511869177180418.

  1. Lori
    April 29, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    Many girls have been severely damaged by the HPV vaccine. Rather than damage the youngest children, it would be better to make sure they are well-nourished, as vitamin deficiency plays a role in who develops cancer after HPV exposure. Education about safe, responsible sexual practices, the importance of not smoking, which also raises risk of cancer after exposure, and DNA/Pap testing in girls after they are about twenty, if sexually active. HPV virus is everywhere, and, rather than give yet another shot to ever younger children, it would be better to look for the reasons that nearly all sexually active people contract HPV, but nearly all of them recover from it: only a small minority has the propensity to develop cancer, and that is what should be addressed, rather than damaging still more children with yet another vaccine.

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  2. novalox
    April 29, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    @lori

    [citation needed] for your claims, since they fly in the face of actual evidence.

    Also, why do you have against a vaccine that can prevent cancer?

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  3. Chris
    April 29, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    “Many girls have been severely damaged by the HPV vaccine.”

    Citation needed in the form of PubMed indexed studied by qualified researchers.

    “… be better to make sure they are well-nourished, as vitamin deficiency plays a role in who develops cancer after HPV exposure.”

    Citation needed.

    “…Education about safe, responsible sexual practices, the importance of not smoking, which also raises risk of cancer after exposure, and DNA/Pap testing in girls after they are about twenty, if sexually active.”

    Are you also going to screen every possible sexual partner, including possible rapists, from age fourteen up?

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  4. Lawrence
    April 30, 2015 at 6:06 am

    @Lori – given that my mother is dying from HPV-derived Cervical Cancer, that she was born into a solidly middle-class household, in the US, in a time of rapid economic expansion and growth, and married her first boyfriend, I’d say that your “facts” are totally skewed and you really need to stop reading anti-vax websites and do some real research for a change.

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  5. everychildbytwo
    April 30, 2015 at 9:04 am

    @Lawrence, we are incredibly sorry to hear that your mother is battling cervical cancer. I’m sure it is difficult for you to read suggestions that better nutrition and vitamin intake could have prevented this terrible outcome. It is unfortunate that the misinformation about the safety of HPV vaccine continues to proliferate, leaving so many at risk of this horrible disease. Keep fighting the good fight.

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  6. Lawrence
    April 30, 2015 at 10:24 am

    Thank you – she’s a fighter, but I know she’d have done anything if a vaccine had been available.

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  7. JillMayer
    May 1, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    According to the CDC (link in article) your chance of getting cancer caused by HPV is 0.0003375, so in my opinion the vaccine is not worth the risk of injury.

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  8. Chris
    May 1, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    Ms. Mayer, could you provide the cut and paste quote of that statistic please?

    Because I read this: “A: Every year, there are about 17,500 women and 9,300 men affected by cancers caused by HPV. Also, about 1 in 100 sexually active adults in the United States have genital warts at any given time.”

    “worth the risk of injury”

    Please provide the PubMed studies showing injuries from the vaccine is more than the over twenty five thousands of HPV caused cancers per year.

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  9. Vaccine Safety
    May 1, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    The Gardasil vaccine has caused way too many adverse reactions. A gynecologist in my town actually refuses to give them any more due to so many of their patients that have had horrible side affects. Including early onset menopause and infertility, as well as migraines, zero energy, muscle wasting, dizziness, and yes, death. There would be no citations for that fyi, it’s called child gets HPV vaccine, child gets sick. Many countries have also banned this vaccine. As long as a woman gets annual pap smears, that is far better than the risk of this deadly vaccine.

    http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/tv2-denmark-documentary-on-hpv-vaccine-shows-lives-of-young-women-ruined/

    http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/parents-of-hpv-vaccine-victims-protest-in-the-streets-of-colombia/

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  10. Chris
    May 1, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    “Vaccine Safety> what part of “PubMed studies showing injuries from the vaccine is more than the over twenty five thousands of HPV caused cancers per year” did you fail to understand?

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  11. Vaccine Safety
    May 1, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    It DOES NOT MATTER what Pub Med says. There are many parents of children out there who could give a DAMN what a study says. Same story, before vaccine, the child is fine, after vaccine, not fine. That’s enough for me and many others to JUST SAY NO to this vaccine.

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  12. JillMayer
    May 1, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Agreed Vaccine Safety!

    PubMed doesn’t = a good study. There are plenty of bad studies on PubMed.

    80,000,000 infected with HPV, 27,000 with HPV Cancer per year = 0.0003375 chance per year.

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  13. Vaccine Safety
    May 1, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Oh and here we go again with the “facts” of 25,000 cases of cancer. Guess what, no child should take one for the team. This vaccine is a disgrace and should be banned. Period. It is harming our youth and that’s a fact. What’s more important? Ruining and killing teens by pushing this vaccine. I’m so disgusted I cannot imagine how anyone can continue with this bs about how awesome the HPV vaccine is. Maybe some vaccines are of benefit, but this one is not.

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  14. Vaccine Safety
    May 1, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Thanks Jill Mayer.

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  15. Lawrence
    May 1, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    @VS – your “facts” aren’t in evidence….several large scale studies of hundreds of thousands of women who had been vaccinated fail to show harm.

    Your “opinions” aren’t worth the electrons they are printed on.

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  16. Chris
    May 1, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    “80,000,000 infected with HPV, 27,000 with HPV Cancer per year = 0.0003375 chance per year”

    That is a direct quote from where? What is the time span variable? Where are the verified relative risk calculations.

    “PubMed doesn’t = a good study.”

    Still better than reporting by unqualified biased folks with an agenda. As far as I can tell they are just making stuff up?

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  17. JillMayer
    May 2, 2015 at 1:20 am

    Chris – I guess you didn’t read the article or the links in the article. The numbers I posted are there. Go back and read it again.

    “Still better than reporting by unqualified biased folks with an agenda. As far as I can tell they are just making stuff up?”
    Who is “they”?
    Apparently, you don’t know much about PubMed. There are PubMed studies with “agendas” and there are PubMed studies done by people who are “unqualified” and there are PubMed studies that are FAKE peer reviewed and so on. Because a study is on PubMed doesn’t prove anything about the study, just that it published on PubMed.

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  18. Vaccine Safety
    May 2, 2015 at 1:32 am

    Ok Lawrence, keep telling yourself that. Obviously you just want to put down anyone against these shitty vaccines. Gardasil and Cervarix are crap and there are many many adverse reactions. I’m not here to prove that point other than to relate how SHITTY these vaccines are. Your opinion is mute. Ask the mothers and fathers that have lost a child to the HPV vaccines. Or have a child still suffering. Do you think they give a damn what a study says. They are the study. The human guinea pigs. Why don’t you get a series of 3 Gardasil. Let’s see how well you feel after.

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  19. Chris
    May 2, 2015 at 1:40 am

    It is just a simple request for you to cut and paste the quote where you got your numbers, but yet you refuse. Why is that? The answer reveals your relationship with honesty. Do you want me to explain your lie, or will you provide that quote yourself?

    “Who is “they”?”

    HealthImpactNews and SaneVax. We have no reason to believe them.

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  20. Chris
    May 2, 2015 at 1:43 am

    My last comment was directed towards Jill. Though for some reason I am getting sniffs of overused sweaty sock puppets.

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  21. Chris
    May 2, 2015 at 2:54 am

    Vaccine Safety: “Gardasil and Cervarix are crap and there are many many adverse reactions”

    Prove it, with real citations.

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  22. novalox
    May 2, 2015 at 8:58 am

    @jill, vaccine safety

    [citation needed] within 3 posts, or we can assume that you are lying to us.

    Though, judging from your fact free posts and rants given to us, we can assume that you’re not going to give any actual science to your posts.

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  23. JillMayer
    May 2, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    I never ever mentioned anything about HealthImpactNews or SaneVax. I am also surprised that you can’t read the article and its links to get the numbers. Do your research Chris and you will see them. Hint: the info is in one of the links in the article above. Don’t you read them?

    Also, your “prove it” with real citations is a joke. You know darn well there have been many injured girls from the vaccine.

    I like the idea of lawrence taking a series of 3 Gardasil to see how he feels. Are you up to the challenge lawrence?

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  24. Chris
    May 2, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    “I never ever mentioned anything about HealthImpactNews or SaneVax”

    Did you miss the links posted by your sock puppet?.

    “I am also surprised that you can’t read the article and its links to get the numbers.”

    I did, which is why I know you are lying. Are you still going to claim the “80,000,000” number is from one year?

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  25. JillMayer
    May 2, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    Sock Puppet? I don’t know what that means. Care to explain?

    Lying? Here is the exact quote, “HPV is a very common virus; nearly 80 million people—about one in four—are currently infected in the United States.”

    I wonder why you play games? If you had a question or think my math is funny, then why don’t you just come out and say it. Instead, you prefer to play games and beat around the bush.

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  26. Lawrence
    May 2, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    @Jill – and if there was a very safe and effective vaccine that would help prevent all of those Cancers, wouldn’t you want it?

    And all of the evidence shows that the current crop of HPV vaccines are extremely safe, despite what you might believe to the contrary.

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  27. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    So you are biased? You asked the citations about adverse reactions and death from Gardasil be proven, then refuse to post the proof. What kind of moderation is that. The truth about Gardasil must hurt.

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  28. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    2 different posts, one from me and one from Vaccine Safety have been posted since this morning. Both say, they are awaiting moderation and have yet to post to the comments below. Both include more than 20 links with PubMed and many other citations about the deaths and adverse reactions to Gardasil. Why don’t you moderate and post those? What are you hiding? Or you are trying in vain to counter the true facts? Hmmmmm

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  29. Lawrence
    May 2, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    You mean the “scaremongering” posts that have been refuted over and over again?

    The real science is out there, and has been posted here over and over again:

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccines/HPV/index.html

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  30. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    No Lawrence. The CDC is a Government entity and they are not the ones whom anyone should trust. I posted actual FACTS and links to PubMed that this moderator is REFUSING to post. Because I posted the truth. There are over 160 deaths directly correlated to Gardasil. One of the videos included in the links was from an extremely reputable PH.D which interestingly had been garbeled on YouTube after it was posted. This site is obviously not willing to post true facts. When someone tries, the posts get stuck in moderation. It’s ok. EVERYONE is waking up to this BS vaccine. You guys have fun poisoning your children, grandchildren etc. Sheeple.

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  31. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Here’s about 9 pages of links with citations.

    http://vaccineimpact.com/tag/gardasil/

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  32. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:28 pm
  33. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    And yet another PubMed article about ovarian failure due to HPV vaccine

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23902317/

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  34. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    Then there’s this from Judicial Watch, the CDC is in fact a cesspool……

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/08/new-cdc-video-lies-about-gardasil-side-effects/

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  35. Ed Kasmer
    May 2, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    Mom, I agree with everything you say.

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  36. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    This from Judicial Watch on the monies paid out to Gardasil injured (and deceased’s families)

    This is dated 2013, imagine how many more since. Plus the new Gardasil has twice the aluminum adjuvant. Thanks FDA, NOT

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/hpv-vaccine-injuries-and-deaths-is-the-government-compensating/

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  37. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:51 pm
  38. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    Thank you Ed. I’ve been researching vaccines and in particular Gardasil for a long time

    . I don’t get deterred by the “hash slinging slashers” of pro-vaccine like “hi I’m Lawrence and I quote the CDC for medical facts, even though they have lost credibility.” Or “hi I’m Novalox, cite cite cite! Cause all those thousands of vax injured kids and parents must be lying!” Or “hi I’m Chris and you smell like a stinky sock puppet”

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  39. Ed Kasmer
    May 2, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    Mom, you have provided plenty of evidence showing how dangerous this vaccine is. Not sure how anybody can dispute it.

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  40. Chris
    May 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    Jill: “HPV is a very common virus; nearly 80 million people—about one in four—are currently infected in the United States.”

    Which you compared to a number of cases from one year. The lie was that the cancers occurred in one, and not the entire time span of the infections. The quote you need to use was: “About 79 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. About 14 million people become newly infected each year.”
    and
    Every year, there are about 17,500 women and 9,300 men affected by cancers caused by HPV. Also, about 1 in 100 sexually active adults in the United States have genital warts at any given time.”

    So the actual equation should have been (17,500 + 9,300) / 14,000,000 = .0019 or about one in five hundred and change to two significant digits.

    The other error you made was believing the accuracy with a one digit of significance. The error bars are huge!

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  41. Chris
    May 2, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    Mom in the Know, let’s check the verifiable numbers from your links add up to at least 26000.

    First link to video ignored due to it not being verifiable, and it being an interview of a researcher with a checkered rerutation for quality.

    Link to website ignored due it being a list of unverified anecdotes.

    First PubMed cite: 35 woman checked after they felt tired/faint after vaccine.

    Second PubMed cite: 3 woman. One author is Tomljenovic. who has questinable work.

    Link to unverified article from biased political site ignored.

    Ditto

    Ditto

    They don’t understand VAERS, which by definition are unverified (yikes, they even quoted a report that one actually had meningococcal disease, a bacterial disease!). Strange that a group full of lawyers who sue lots of people does not understand that even the NVICP Vaccine Court requires at least some compelling evidence. Surely they know that bringing a lawsuit does not equal instant cash.

    Hmmmm, at best I see less than forty cases of symptoms that are not as medically dire as over 26,000 cases ofcancer.

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  42. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    Oh Chris. You are delusional. Picking apart and trying to discredit doctors.

    Get a clue. I linked so many pages. All you can do is try to bash. Good try troll.

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  43. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 11:45 pm

    Oh and guess what Chris. Many variables when it comes to getting “cancer”. The background, diet, dna, and other things play into the 70% of HPV cases that actually get cancer.

    This vaccine is not a LIFE SAVER. not one study can prove this vaccine stops any cancer. So these girls are gambling with their lives for a mostly benign virus. Go spout to the uneducated. I’m not in that category of sheep that blindly poisons my children. And my children have already learned what NOT to do with their own children. And that’s trusting pharmaceuticals or our CDC.

    Your arguments don’t even have a shred of facts behind them. All you do is downplay any doctor that disagrees with this mainstream agenda.

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  44. Mom in the know
    May 2, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    PS Chris. Learn to spell. Your bad grammar and spelling are as laughable as your downplaying factual science. 🙂

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  45. JillMayer
    May 3, 2015 at 12:14 am

    No Chris, my math is just fine. 14 million “new” people get it every year. Why would I divide 27,000 (people with HPV cancer PER YEAR) with 14 million? There are not 14 million people with HPV infection, there are on average 80 million per year. So in any ONE year, 27,000 people out of a possible 80 million people (HPV infected) get HPV cancer.

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  46. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 12:16 am

    “Picking apart and trying to discredit doctors.”

    What doctors? The lawyers at Judicial Watch?

    “Your bad grammar and spelling are as laughable as your downplaying factual science.”

    I have a broken arm so am typing with one hand. It is making me hit the wrong keys, miss letters and words and typing is much slower than I think.

    Sorry, I missed your “factual science” in the Judicial Watch links. It must be hiding in the ISIS camps near El Paso, the ones no one else can find. 😉

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  47. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 12:19 am

    Ms. Mayer, you have no clue on how to keep variables straight. That basic mistake would earn a “Fail” in 4th grade science.

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  48. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 12:37 am

    Chris. I linked a lot more than Judicial watch. Vaccine impact had 9 pages with multiple links on each page.

    You are a typical troll. Always downplaying any doctor that does not promote vaccines.

    That’s ok. Your in a dream world and I’m not. At least my kids are safe thanks to my understanding of vaccine safety. Enjoy your vaccinated euphoria ❤️

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  49. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 12:39 am

    Chris. Please post any factual data showing how the HPV vaccine has stopped even one case of cancer.

    Guess what. Your cant. There aren’t any.

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  50. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 2:26 am

    Mom in the know; “Your cant,”

    Hilarious. Even more than your illiteracy. innumeracy, and general cluelessness.

    Where are the PubMed indexed studies by qualified reputable researchers showing the HPV vaccine is more dangerous than the cancers caused by the virus? Remember that sue happy lawyers (Judicial Watch) and incompetent biased researchers (Tomljenovic) do not count as valid.

    I may have a broken arm that affects my typing, but it does not affect my thinking, I still see less than forty cases of some symptoms as less than 26000 cases of cancer per year.

    And yes, the per “year” part is important. Do you understand that Ms. Mayer? If not, then I can recommend some remedial math classes.

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  51. novalox
    May 3, 2015 at 9:27 am

    @jill
    Thanks for proving that you are a liar and proving that I am better than you. Also, thanks for proving that you area joke. Your insults and ad hominems prove that you have nothing to back u[ your data.

    I just love making trolls like you fall into blabbering gibberish, like you have have done.

    @mom

    Considering your links are not backed up by any verifiable science, and that you resort to verbal insults and slings, we can dismiss your comments as nonsense and lies like the regular anti-vax trolls.

    And why would you want people to suffer from something that can be prevented?

    @ed

    Why should any rational person believe a known liar like you?

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  52. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 11:16 am

    Chris, “your can’t” was the iPhone auto correct. And as far as my links, all you pro-vax people do is spout about any doctor that researches vaccine safety is a quack or questionable. And that all other studies are garbage. You are a joke Chris. You haven’t provided one link PROVING the HPV vaccine has efficacy and has prevented even one case of cancer.

    Novalox… HPV is not deadly, and most cancers that it may or may not trigger, can be found with a very safe Pap smear and exam. And are treatable. For those that die, there’s a lot more to it, like their immune system, lifestyle, diet etc.
    This HPV vaccine is not worth the risk.

    Good luck in life.

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  53. Lawrence
    May 3, 2015 at 11:22 am

    @Mom – look at the words you wrote….you said that a Pap Smear can “detect” Cancers, which can then be treated…..but we all know that treatments aren’t 100% – though if the woman never gets the Cancer in the first place (through HPV vaccination), then guess what, she won’t need to worry about treatment now, will she?

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  54. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 11:43 am

    Lawrence

    The risk of injury from this vaccine is not worth it. Period. A preventative vaccine that has NEVER been proven to prevent the cancer it claims to prevent, with a 5 year waning immunity and awful side affects is not worth it.

    We can go back and forth all day, but I’ve made my point.

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  55. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 11:52 am

    “You haven’t provided one link PROVING the HPV vaccine has efficacy and has prevented even one case of cancer.”

    Note one of the precursors to the HPV cancers are genital warts:

    BMJ. 2013 Apr 18;346:f2032. doi: 10.1136/bmj.f2032.
    Genital warts in young Australians five years into national human papillomavirus vaccination programme: national surveillance data.

    Also you should read the article since these papers were cited:

    Pediatrics. 2015 May;135(5):e1131-40. doi: 10.1542/peds.2014-2961.
    The early benefits of human papillomavirus vaccination on cervical dysplasia and anogenital warts.

    J Infect Dis. 2013 Aug 1;208(3):385-93. doi: 10.1093/infdis/jit192. Epub 2013 Jun 19.
    Reduction in human papillomavirus (HPV) prevalence among young women following HPV vaccine introduction in the United States, National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys, 2003-2010.

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  56. Lawrence
    May 3, 2015 at 11:57 am

    @Mom – you’ve made no point, because you have provided so evidence. As Chris has provided above, the evidence is becoming very clear that this is a very effective vaccine and the safety record is stellar – regardless of the “stories” you hear on the Internet.

    Facts and facts, and you don’t have any.

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  57. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    “Facts and facts, and you don’t have any.”

    Well the Judicial Watch was amusing. Like their claim of terrowists sout of El Paso:

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2015/04/22/judicial-watch-we-prevented-a-terrorist-attack/

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  58. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    Lawrence and Chris. You’re both clueless and obviously could care less about teen girls or women’s health. NO VACCINE should be killing girls. Why are you spending so much time trying to prove me and my links wrong?

    I’m so happy to see people waking up to the lies of pharmaceutical company’s.

    Here is some more reading for you both. I’m sure you’ll call Dr. Brogan a quack, or her facts are wrong. Have fun with that. Meanwhile most EVERY mother I know personally, wouldn’t trust this vaccine.

    http://kellybroganmd.com/article/guarding-our-youth-gardasil/

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  59. Lawrence
    May 3, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    Sorry Mom – I don’t deal with fiction. What I do deal with, is my own Mother who is currently dying from Cervical Cancer caused by HPV.

    She certainly would have given anything to have had the vaccine available when she was younger – because perhaps she’d have a few more years with both her children and grandchildren…….

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  60. Lawrence
  61. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    “NO VACCINE should be killing girls.”

    Which you have not proven.

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  62. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    The science is clear for deaths and adverse reactions. Tons of facts and citations in many of my links.

    The reason my info keeps getting downplayed is because the truth hurts profits for vaccine makers.

    Have a lovely Sunday. I’m done here. I’ve more than made my very valid points. Neither you Chris or you Lawrence have proven your points. This vaccine has killed. It has injured.

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  63. May 3, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    No “Mom,” you’ve provided a bunch of Ayiotis and bad science that has been debunked hundreds of times, and all the while, women are still getting and dying from HPV-derived Cancers, including my own mother.

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  64. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    “Tons of facts and citations in many of my links.”

    Not really, as I explained. Go find a dictionary and look up the word “verified.”

    After you do, perhaps you can tell your litigious friends at Judicial Watch as they search for invisible terror training camps in Mexico.

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  65. Ed Kasmer
    May 3, 2015 at 2:38 pm

    Chris, what was it you said before? “Cry me a river?” Why don’t you cry me a river for your excuse for your bad grammar. Do you think we really care? You have already shown to have no empathy or compassion here, so why would you expect it from us?

    Lawrence, you keep bringing your Mother up in this discussion. Must be why you are so passionate about this vaccine – yes?
    What about my vaccine injured daughter? Do you understand now why parents of vaccine injured children are so passionate about vaccines?

    Just like Chris, you don’t care one bit about vaccine injured children and in fact deny that it really ever happens very often.

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  66. Ed Kasmer
    May 3, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    Lawrence, “No “Mom,” you’ve provided a bunch of Ayiotis and bad science that has been debunked hundreds of times, and all the while, women are still getting and dying from HPV-derived Cancers, including my own mother.”

    Bad science debunked hundreds of times? In your own mind as you go through and systematically debunk each study presented to you one by one with your own bad logic. Because you know more than scientists who are doing the studies. Of course all of the study’s that support your view are 100% legitimate.

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  67. Ed Kasmer
    May 3, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    Lawrence, “The science is clear – the fearmongering by people is not.”

    The science is NOT clear or done on anything to do with vaccines. Those kinds of statements don’t make you seem too bright.

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  68. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    “Just like Chris, you don’t care one bit about vaccine injured children and in fact deny that it really ever happens very often.”

    Another lie from you. Why don’t you provide a truthful answer to the following equation:

    1672 / 2556204270 = ?

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  69. Lawrence
    May 3, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    @Ed – please point out anywhere in this discussion (or any discussion for that matter), where a pro-vaccine person has denied that serious vaccine reactions do occur….heck, even the CDC won’t deny that fact – and instead, they highlight the actual chances and rate of occurrence of serious reactions.

    Any they know, why, exactly? Because vaccines are one of, if not the most highly regulated biologics on the planet….not only are they required to go through the standard FDA clinical trial and approval process:

    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/

    But they are also subject to several post release surveillance systems – some passive, like VAERS, but others are active, like the Vaccine Safety Datalink, which reports on reactions or suspected reactions from tens of thousands of medical practitioners across the country.

    On top of that, vaccines are also subject to regulation and scrutiny from multiple national regulatory bodies and health agencies across the world – all of which agree that vaccines are safe, effective, and serious reactions are extremely rare.

    See, I am passionate because I have the science that shows exactly why my mother is dying – she was infected with HPV in the past & that infection led to her terminal Cancer.

    Anti-vax parents are “passionate” because they, for the most part, have been carefully fed a series of lies, misrepresentations and misinterpretations of data in an attempt to explain why their child isn’t “perfect.”

    For those parents, the few that do have a child that suffers a serious reaction, they have all of my sympathy & I am glad that there is a system in place to compensate them – because for those parents who lose a child or have a child who suffers a life-altering complication from a vaccine-preventable disease, there is no means of compensation….huge difference.

    You may feel whatever way you like Ed & Mom can continue to spew her lies and false links, but at the end of the day, even the basic science is against you – and after decades of research, there is no link to the ills that you claim vaccines are a cause (whether it be autism, diabetes, ADD, ADHD, auto-immune disorders, allergies, etc).

    You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own set of facts that fly in the face of all other evidence (and reality for that matter).

    If you have anything to actual contribute from the side of scientific facts, please feel free to provide them, but also understand that all evidence has to stand up to scrutiny – and time and time again, when the information is put under a microscope, the anti-vax science is found to be nothing but junk.

    That’s just reality Ed, deal with it.

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  70. Lawrence
    May 3, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    And while this is a little off-topic, here is a real examination of some of the evidence that anti-vaxers try to hold up as an example of vaccine harm (VAERS & the MMR vaccine):

    https://thepoxesblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/vaccine-injuries-from-the-mmr-a-review-of-vaers/

    I will also point out that in VAERS, several deaths attributed to the HPV vaccine include:

    A girl who died from drowning.

    A girl who died in a car accident.

    And several reports that consist of: “respondent saw a report on the Internet that a girl died from the HPV vaccine. Several identical reports were submitted by the same respondent.”

    Now you tell me, why would any use these reports as evidence of vaccine harm?

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  71. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    “I will also point out that in VAERS, several deaths attributed to the HPV vaccine include:”

    On one of the Judicial Watch anti-vaccine pages spammed by “Mom who knows” included cut and paste from VAERS that they did not bother to read. One included that one had meningococcal disease, a much More likely cause of death.

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  72. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    Chris and Lawrence. 1st, I don’t spam, I share. Secondly BOTH my children are fully vaccinated minus the flu shot and minus this horrendous Gardasil.

    Secondly Lawrence, specifically to you, BOTH my children had vaccine reactions and one of them almost died. So thank you for your compassion. I’m sorry for your mother. However that does not mean that people I PERSONALLY know that their daughter died after Gardasil are liars. They are not. Nor are the many on Vaccine Impact site. 9 pages of several different stories.

    Both you and Chris are vigilant in your denial that this vaccine causes harm.

    Again, something’s up with you especially Chris. You have tried to debunk every doctors scientific (verified) study. Just because you love to argue and try to make me or my links look bad, doesn’t make your point more valid. It just makes you look desperate to defend big Pharma.

    At the end of the day. The truth will come out about the dangers of this particular vaccine. I’ll talk to you again then. In the mean time, good luck to your mother Lawrence.

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  73. May 3, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    More evidence for the efficacy of the HPV Vaccine….

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25917991/

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  74. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    “Chris and Lawrence. 1st, I don’t spam, I share.”

    So you did not post multiple links to the ever amusing Judicial Watch website?

    “Both you and Chris are vigilant in your denial that this vaccine causes harm.”

    We are only trying to get you post the evidence to support your claims the vaccine is more dangerous than a virus that causes ten of thousands of cancers each year.

    “Again, something’s up with you especially Chris. You have tried to debunk every doctors scientific (verified) study.”

    No, I told you that the less than forty supposed injuries were not even close to the cancers caused by the virus. Also Tomljenovic is not a doctor, and she is not a competent researcher. Plus links to videos, and websites of anecdotes are not science.

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  75. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Chris, your desperation here is laughable. Dr. Tomljenovic is a Doctor and researcher. Nice try though. Your argument does not hold water. Neither does your claim that I didn’t post any facts. Over 100 girls dead from Gardasil. Over 20,000 adverse reactions.

    I’m not posting anymore. You’re such an argumentative person who is a true science denier. If I have enlightened even one person to question Gardasil safety, I’m happy. All you’ve done is argue, make sarcastic comments and try to downplay true tragedy. May you rot somewhere very hot for your comments.

    http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lucija_Tomljenovic

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  76. novalox
    May 3, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    @mom

    Ah yes, making threats now, are we? You do know making treats and whatever deity you suppose you worship to wish everlasting harm on another says a lot about your lack of character.

    But thanks for admitting that you are a liar, you have no argument to speak of, and that you admit that the HPV vaccination is a beneficial one that is better than getting the actual disease.

    I’m sure you will come back with another sock puppet to bolster your supposed “argument”, but in the end, you will always have no real-world evidence to support you. Your postings here will stay as a record to your lack of such an argument and will show your lack of empathy towards those with cervical cancer.

    And I do admit seeing your spittle-filled rants has given me a good laugh, thanks for the chuckle from you and your ilk that has posted here, I did need that.

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  77. Chris
    May 3, 2015 at 7:15 pm
  78. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    Novalox, you’re an idiot. Plain and simple.

    Chris, not only is Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic, she’s a Ph.D.

    You both are such jerks. Really truly disgusting Pharma trolls. Enjoy your BLOOD money.

    http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/speakers.html

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  79. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    Hey Chris And Novalox, you cash your checks from Merck. It’s so obvious you’re paid shills. You don’t back up any of your ridiculous rants.

    Hey Merck, Gardasil sucks and so does your company.

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  80. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    Oh and as much as Merck pays you, it will never stop the truth. Novalox you in particular are such a joke.

    Karma will come around to those trying in vain to discredit death and injuries from vaccines and pharmaceuticals.

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  81. Mom in the know
    May 3, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    Novalox, I NEVER agreed that Gardasil is beneficial. That’s plain BS

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  82. Chris
    May 4, 2015 at 12:07 am

    Mom in the Know: “I’m not posting anymore.”

    Promises, promises. Just another lie. Le sigh.

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  83. Lawrence
    May 4, 2015 at 5:42 am

    @MITK- what does an Eye Doctor know about the immune system?

    Do you call a tire specialist to replace your transmission at the auto dealership?

    Again, we’ve posted the evidence, time and time again, that your beliefs aren’t backed by any actual science…..you certainly aren’t “in the know.”

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  84. novalox
    May 4, 2015 at 9:02 am

    @mom

    Ah, breaking your promises already, lying as usual (but then again, what else is new with anti-vax liars), so we can assume that everything that you have said is a lie. Of course, using the old pharma shill gambit tells how intellectually bankrupt your so-called argument really is.

    Because of that, we can assume that your protests against the vaccine is a lie, and that you admit that you support using the vaccine to prevent cancer.

    Also, thanks for admitting that you are an “idiot” and that I am more intelligent and caring than you can ever hope to be.

    I surely do pity your child, if you really do have a child, to have such a mother who has to resort to name-calling and false accusations to make a point. I really hope your child, if you do have one, grows up more intelligent and rational than you. We can always hold out hope, can’t we?

    But please keep on posting. Show how much you hate people by going against something that can prevent cancer.

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  85. Mom in the know
    May 4, 2015 at 10:33 am

    Novalox,

    You need mental help. Seriously. I haven’t lied about anything. Yet every one of you (Chris, Lawrence and yourself) have attacked every ounce of science. And even made false claims that doctors within my posts were not actual doctors, which is just not true.

    The fact that all 3 of you have tried so desperately to discredit my posts actually shows your true character.

    I care deeply for every child or adult injured by vaccines including this one.

    And for the record, I’m a fantastic mother. But if people attack me, and call me a liar, expect a rebuttal.

    All 3 of you posting are typical of the ProVax stance. Attack anyone and downplay every doctor or study produced. And attack them through commentary like the last few comments. Bullying to get people like me not to post anything online to the contrary of your campaign for vaccination. When I said I was done I meant it. But you 3 won’t let it die. As if every person reading this thread can’t see for themselves what I said and posted.

    I am officially done. I stand by every post I made.

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  86. Chris
    May 4, 2015 at 10:48 am

    “The fact that all 3 of you have tried so desperately to discredit my posts actually shows your true character. ”

    Because they were lacking in reality. Please stick the flounce as you return to Htrae.

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  87. novalox
    May 4, 2015 at 10:55 am

    @mom

    Again, why do you keep assigning your proven mental issues and lying personality onto others? I haven’t seen lies from the regulars, who have actually backed up their posts with verifiable evidence from actual scientists. But then again, I’m not surprised by a liar like you. Of course, standing by a bunch of lies and outright fabrications like you have posted will show your true character.

    Your continuing attempt to defame others by making false accuations instead of showing evidence for your claims shows a lot more about your character than mine or the regulars that post here. And judging how you state falsehoods, I deeply doubt your story about a “vaccine-injured” child, and I doubt you would even care for one.

    Like I sad before, and have proven, through your lack of evidence to support your so-called position, you are a liar, and I truly pity your child, if you really do have one, who has to be raise by someone who has to resort to unfounded attacks and pseudoscience to buttress your lack of position. I would certainly hope you would raise them better than the behaviors that you have shown here.

    Simply stated, your position is not based on any actual science, and your position of not preventing a type of cancer through a simple vaccine is bewildering to any rational person, and I would think that you would thing that an ounce prevention is better than a pound of cure.

    But I’m pretty sure you’ll post again. You or another troll or sockie that you’ll create will keep raising the same old objections that have been refuted a thousand times again and again, repeating the tired old mantras.

    I look forward to another post from you, for I do need some entertainment, and you seem like the perfect fool and liar for a few laughs. I know you won’t change your mind, but I’m just here to prove the fool and liar you really are, Your posts here certainly do show that, and you can stand by them, to show the world your true character.

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  88. Lawrence
    May 4, 2015 at 11:19 am

    I believe this requires an additional post:

    And while this is a little off-topic, here is a real examination of some of the evidence that anti-vaxers try to hold up as an example of vaccine harm (VAERS & the MMR vaccine):

    https://thepoxesblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/vaccine-injuries-from-the-mmr-a-review-of-vaers/

    I will also point out that in VAERS, several deaths attributed to the HPV vaccine include:

    A girl who died from drowning.

    A girl who died in a car accident.

    And several reports that consist of: “respondent saw a report on the Internet that a girl died from the HPV vaccine. Several identical reports were submitted by the same respondent.”

    Now you tell me, why would any use these reports as evidence of vaccine harm?

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  89. ThomasPaine
    May 5, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    This is the worst vaccine out of all of them.

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  90. ThomasPaine
    May 5, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    Several Doctors have told me it is not worth the risk…..for them to say this it must be really bad for you.

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  91. Wendy
    May 5, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    Another reason to NOT get the HPV vaccine…..Now, research presented at the 2015 annual meeting of the American Association for Cancer Research showed that women who were vaccinated against HPV had a higher risk of developing non-vaccine strains of the virus.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/05/05/hpv-vaccine-gardasil.aspx?e_cid=20150505Z1_DNL_B_art_2&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art2&utm_campaign=20150505Z1_DNL_B&et_cid=DM75877&et_rid=941323182

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  92. Chris
    May 5, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Oooh, look more socks have crawled out of the laundry basket!

    Mercola would not know how to read a medical paper honestly if his life depended on it.

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  93. Lawrence
    May 5, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    @Wendy – mercola? Really?

    Why don’t you start quoting Whale.to while you are at it….

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  94. Lawrence
    May 5, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    http://www.livescience.com/50563-hpv-vaccine-infections-prevalence.html

    And pretty much everyone agrees that more research is needed & to see if these findings are replicated across larger populations of women (and, of course, recommendations that women who got the original vaccine should now also get the expanded vaccine, which covers more strains).

    Sounds like Science continues to advance – no reason to freak out (unless you are anti-vax & don’t understand science, I guess).

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  95. Klay51@gmail.com
    May 10, 2015 at 2:49 am

    Dr mercola is a highly credible source. He just doesn’t buckle to the pressure or the propaganda. Now more and mor ephysicians are coming out against mass vaccinations and multiple vaccines because there has never been a safety study on multiple doses of anything. Injecting formaldehyde and aluminum and squalene and Mercury (it is still in the flu vaccine) directlyinto the blood is not the same as ingesting it. It does not get filtered by the liver.
    The main question is why is there a vaccine injury fund? That seems to be the question that nobody wants to answer.
    When the whistle blower from the CDC William Thompson says the CDC covered up the relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism you know there’s a big problem.
    Lawrence do you really trust your government? Do you really trust your congressman who take large sums of money from the pharmaceutical industry to promote their agenda.? Wake up son

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  96. Lawrence
    May 10, 2015 at 7:51 am

    Anti-vax Bingo!!!!

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  97. Lawrence
    May 10, 2015 at 9:42 am

    @Klay – my Senator recently supported the creation of Naturopath Week, so I’m unhappy with her for more than a few reasons (which is ironic given her overall support of sound science).

    As to the rest of your rant – you did pretty much hit all of the anti-vax high-notes, all of which have been thoroughly debunked, over and over and over again.

    For instance:

    http://pediatrics.about.com/od/immunizations/tp/Anti-Vaccine-Myths-and-Misinformation.htm

    http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2014/09/mmr-cdc-and-brian-hooker-media-guide.html

    https://www2.aap.org/immunization/families/faq/vaccinestudies.pdf

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  98. Robert S
    May 12, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Merck’s Former Doctor Predicts Gardasil To Become The Greatest Medical Scandal Of All Time

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/01/25/mercks-former-doctor-predicts-gardasil-to-become-the-greatest-medical-scandal-of-all-time/

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  99. Lawrence
    May 12, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    Good for us that that report is false.

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